old dog
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The 60's were the best
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Post by old dog on Oct 17, 2004 12:10:03 GMT -5
How good of an action bowler was Jamsey?
The last time I saw him bowl was in the sixties, he was very young, had a big mouth, and sucked as a bowler.
The last time I saw him was in the eighties, he was at the track a lot, still had a big mouth, was betting thousands every race, had a very big bankroll, where did he get it from and what type of action bowler was he then?
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Post by striker on Oct 18, 2004 9:46:11 GMT -5
Jamesy was fair at best,but he was a great trash talker,he used to try to get under an opponent's skin to gain an advantage.He always had a large bankroll,but only in the winter months.Seems he ran some scam while delivering heating oil to NYC projects.In the summer he all but disappeared.I understand his mom used to be a pretty fair bookmaker,I think her name was Josie.In spite of this,I can still remember a couple of times when some gorillas pulled him off the lanes, because he owed his life!!!!
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old dog
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Post by old dog on Oct 18, 2004 11:32:57 GMT -5
His mothers name was Josie, in the late fifties and early sixties she ran the lunch counter at Windsor lanes in Boro Park. She use to back some of the kid bowlers at that time. Butch and some other youngsters (Bernie, Marc, Roy) from Ave M went there a few times when they were about 14 or 15 and did well against her little stable. They also bowled a lot against the kids from Elmwood lanes on McDonal Ave who were pretty damn good.
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Post by SENIOR CITIZEN on Oct 23, 2004 2:07:27 GMT -5
A big match Jamese's mom involved in, backing Santini against Johnny Myers the lefty pro in the sixties who won a few stops and the tough Newsday. Myers lost 10g that night. Heard Jamese was vacationing Federal. time. I think he's out now.
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Post by Billy Tops on Oct 23, 2004 23:39:40 GMT -5
Where was that match held, was Joe S still that good in the sixties, I believe the fifties were his real hay days?
I remember a match at New Parkway on Cropsey Ave, Johnny Myers and Sis M verse Bert Goodman and Dick? Johnny and Sis mowed them down, big crowd on hand.
Who was a better action bowler, Sis or Johnny, that night I believe Sis was anchor.
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Post by SENIOR CITIZEN on Oct 24, 2004 21:45:15 GMT -5
Probably SIS. Myers was tough on oily lanes with that tremendous hook. In action, the lanes were dry in those days generally favoring the bowler with less of a hook.
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Post by Louis Capasso on Oct 25, 2004 19:04:50 GMT -5
or could overpower the condition, i hooked the hell out of it but could get in to 5th arrow and overpower the dry heads . but that was a rarity then. remember laquer lanes would break down in the track and most shooters played track shots, and the crankers of the day could play inside enough to get it to the track at about 40 feet and make it finish with authority. and some of us even deeper never getting to the 2nd arrow track. which was the norm at most brunswick house except maple which was a gutter shot and amf lanes in brooklyn always seemed to be 3rd arrow. and hooked a wee bit more ala three star.real good track shooters of my day were ron dick, billy picone ,simo sr ( full roller days) vin lautato, bonelli,than the real old timers mcnevich, sparando,little lou , al pujols bert goodman,
these guys on hooking lanes would still play down the boards. i could never figure out how, i would move left and rip it harder. MAN I MISS THOSE DAYS .
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Post by Renaissance Man on Oct 26, 2004 0:50:21 GMT -5
Lou, how good of an action bowler was Bert Goodman?
He always intrigued me.
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Post by Louis Capasso on Oct 26, 2004 11:26:30 GMT -5
i met bert in the early mid 70's he was a solid 190 shooter then but in the 60's he was tough he was a track shooter without much ball he literally dumped the ball in the track. but he had stories that never ended , i asked santini how good he was and he said he was tough. i bowled with him at the bowlmor when i was 15 or so and he was good. berky babe as he was called by joe s was a good man . but his days were gone when i was around. i spoke to him 6 months ago he still lives in brooklyn and is in his 70's now and recently had a hip replacement. AND STILL CAN TELL THE STORIES OF HOW HE WAS THE KING IN HIS DAY.
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Post by SENIOR CITIZEN on Jan 8, 2005 2:14:08 GMT -5
He did have a scam. he was stealing the oil and selling it, making as much as $1,500 a day. last I heard he was doing hard time, Federal. Think he's out by now.
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Post by thecane1 on Jul 17, 2005 15:45:34 GMT -5
I saw him a few years ago after he got out and lives less than 2 minutes from me with Josie, but that was 4 years ago.. lennyd
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Post by Zoo Master on Jul 19, 2005 1:05:48 GMT -5
Was Josie still active and getting around 4 years ago. Did Jamsie change since being a guest at the big house.
Many fond memories of all the crap that went on in the sixties and seventies, it was a lot of fun just to be part of it.
How did so many people get down to Florida?
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Post by Zoo Master on Jul 19, 2005 1:09:20 GMT -5
Lenny, hows the Buff doing, is he still looking for the easy buck or did he finally smarten up.
If he followed your way years ago he would of been much better off.
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Post by thecane1 on Jul 20, 2005 19:26:13 GMT -5
Jasmsie lives less than 1 minute from me now , but havnt seen him, looked in the county records for address, buffalo I havnt seen or heard from since he went in 7 years ago, but some people were knocking on my door looking for him....lennyd
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Post by Brooklyn Guy on Jul 23, 2005 0:08:18 GMT -5
I'm amazed that Jamsie became a legit action bowler, when I knew him in the early seventies he was terrible, all mouth no action.
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