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Post by Zoo Master on Dec 9, 2002 19:46:41 GMT -5
We will be adding hotlinks from the the names on this list www.actionbowlers.com/greatest.html if anyone has stories or comments about these great action bowlers, kindly post them to this thread or email them to greatest@actionbowlers.comWe will add these stories and comments to the hotlinks so all can read about them.
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Post by sickle st on Apr 24, 2003 16:03:57 GMT -5
great action bowlers, here are a few of the best and any time they bowled with or againest each other was like a great game in any sport you loved to watch. joe s,frank medici ralph engan(the most feared), jake charter, dewey blair, lemongello,ritchie hornriech,jack clemente,rich pizzutti, jeff kitter,john massaro,ernie schlegel,doc iandolli,jimmy mChugh, pete mylenki,mike derose,and many more that i'm probably other people can add to this great list. each one of these bowlers had alot of talentand when they bowled each other it was beautiful to watch no matter who one the clutch strikes the jibeing was worth the price of admission
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Post by joe lendichia on May 2, 2003 16:46:49 GMT -5
you left out a few 1) snake 2) Lou Capasso 3)cherry pie 4) Foti 5) berardi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Stevie Wonder on May 2, 2003 17:42:39 GMT -5
I liked watching Iggy Russo the most because you never knew what he'd do.
One time at Central he was bowling a kid who fouled on purpose by about 2 feet on every shot. Iggy needed a mark to win. He left a ten pin. When the ball came back he picked it up, walked all the way down the lane, got on his stomach a few inches from the pin and rolled his ball into it. Then he walked back up the alley, picked up the money from the score table and yelled in his best voice " you fouled, I fouled", Nobody said a word.
Of couse the fake heart attack is the most famous story.
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Post by Louis on May 23, 2003 13:50:22 GMT -5
to sicle st the list you wrote was impressive. I bowled against a few of those and with a few. horn was great. i never saw engan bowl a match i was much to young ( not an old timer like you) by the way you were awsome the outfits the mind games and the talent. all you needed was my ball Just kidding all i needed was your mental approach to the game.
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Post by SC on May 23, 2003 19:43:02 GMT -5
Pete Mylenki sucked compared to those mentioned. do not insult the others. I think the only reason Schlegel bowled with him a lot was to get easy doubles matches. I missed seeing Jake Charter another flash in the pan who was great and left the game before 20. I think he may have crushed engan in his late teens. Any action matches about him appreciated here.
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Post by Stevie Wonder on May 23, 2003 20:07:16 GMT -5
SC, you are right about Jake Charter. He threw a tank. Remember he was a regular at Gunpost along with Ralph and Hank Bouroughs. Sorry I don't have a specific match in my memory bank. He could talk up a storm also. That stuff was almost as good as the actual matches. He always had a grin on his face.
The gabbing among those guys and Ernie, Iggy, Lemon, Chicago Bill, etc. was priceless.
Love reading your posts. You have the knowledge and respect for those great days.
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Post by SC on May 23, 2003 20:40:15 GMT -5
Thanx Stevie. You mentioned Chicago Bill, Bill Jargella who moved back to Chicago back in the seventies to escape some big monies he owed here. He wasn't as good as the others mentioned, but he was a small deuce in the 60s which was darn good. Owned the pro shop at lyons in newark, nj where the action was friday nights in the seventies. I always felt he was the unluckiest bowler I ever saw. So many times I saw him need a hit to win and he'd leave a solid 10 or a 4 pin which we did not trip in those days.
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Post by Simon on May 25, 2003 19:24:32 GMT -5
I saw on your list of Greatest Action Bowlers that you have someone named Leon Arkin. I was wondering if you could give me any more information on him, like when he bowled or a picture or something like that. I am related to someone who used to bowl competitively at the least, if not professionally and I was just wondering if this is the same person. It would be really cool if it is to show him because I'm sure he would have no idea he's on this list if it actually is the same person.
Thanks!
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Post by tweener on Jul 25, 2003 18:16:32 GMT -5
one of the graetest of all time at still a young age is when warren floyd jumped in a match at carolier and beat rudy,tony rosamealia,norm tittus and jd and he was in regular street shoes and barrowed a old nitro from tonys spare bag thats the best 6 game win in a row i had ever seen,later the nj tweener
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Post by Guest on Jul 28, 2003 8:48:44 GMT -5
Who is this Warren Floyd? I never heard of him.
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Post by Former Action Bowler on Jul 28, 2003 11:12:39 GMT -5
This message is in response to Ernie Schlegel. Ernie was never a good action bowler. He would come into Gun Post Lanes with a loaded red ball filled with mercury in the thumbholes. There was a kid called 'The Bell' who would beat Ernie 90 percent of the time. That kid was super, wish I knew where he went.
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Post by SC on Jul 29, 2003 13:19:19 GMT -5
Maybe Ernie can respond because he has posted to this board.
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Post by Stevie Wonder on Jul 29, 2003 22:36:15 GMT -5
Former Action Bowler, the "Bell" was Johnny Bell a real good lefty who threw a ton of ball.
You're nuts to say Ernie wasn't a good action bowler. As for the loaded ball, that's b.s.
Anyone who ever saw Ernie knows his whole game was being accurate. You couldn't be accurate with a loaded ball in the 60's because we used to put lead or mercury in and had no idea of what would happen when we threw it. It was more for fun than serious bowliing.
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Post by SC on Jul 30, 2003 7:04:28 GMT -5
I know Ernie never threw a load like many. Stevie, was he right about this guy BELL crushing Ernie? Biggest load I saw was a guy named Mario who came to Central quite often. His ball weighed at least 18 pounds. One night the lanes were hooking so much that he had alot of trouble keeping the ball on the right side. We were cracking up in the back. Another guy Joe Leggett from Lyons Lanes in the 70s threw a load and never denied it. He was tough. Try getting him into a match with a legal ball. Impossible. Iggy Russo threw a load many times, although he did not need it.
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Post by Former Action Bowler on Jul 30, 2003 10:53:36 GMT -5
Dear Stevie,
I just spoke to quite a few of my colleagues who was there with me when Ernie was shooting action at Gun Post Lanes with his red ball. We all agree something was up with his bowling ball.
Ernie was very accurate, I agree there with you. I should have just made reference to 'The Bell' when they had thier action matches, so for this I do take back the statement that he was a poor action bowler.
I see all these younger kids talking trash on how good they are at Action Bowling. Stevie, how old are you and where are you from? Have a nice day.
Former Action Bowler Vito D.
P.S. I did have some matches with Ernie at Gun Post Lanes and Joe Berardi just to name a couple. I held my own with them, you know win some lose some! Wish I had my legs strength still. I think we could compete with these so called action bowlers.
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Post by ac on Jul 30, 2003 18:25:30 GMT -5
the whalebest lefty on long island
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Post by sickle st on Jul 30, 2003 23:28:12 GMT -5
the ball u are talking about was red, not heavy 90%of all bowlers used black or black and another color.bowlers are judged on who went home with the money and he went home with it more then any other action bowler period.............just because he was smart, not to lose is a feat in itself. he used the red ball only to see if color made a difference,the bowlers were the ones who feared the ball more then him.....I remember a bowler would only bowl if he used a black ball and he would reluctantly stall and then finally get the pair of his choice only to please the bowler by using his favorite black manhatten rubber,the same one that he beat jake and ralph in skytop in the same nite to win a whole bunch, the era was the 60's and fullrollers were tough to beat just because it went straight and didn't hook was not the name of this game it was called 10 not 9. good bowlers knew the other good ones and tested each other all the time but your goal was to win and again he did this the best and the most and he is still doing it and no one else is..........see ya
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Post by Guest on Jul 31, 2003 9:26:56 GMT -5
Does anybody know that Schlegel is blind in one eye? Reason for not being a cranker.
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Post by LC on Jul 31, 2003 13:53:44 GMT -5
Dear Ernie I have bowled with you on tour and thank god never against you in a match you ARE a tough bowler and one of my idols. nuff said
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Post by LC on Aug 1, 2003 12:27:38 GMT -5
also i was very close friends with the horn and joe s and both also agree ernie was a tough match now in my opinion ernie had the heart of a lion. i never saw him in the sixties but the seventy's he was still tough. the man could go down and in better than anyone . plus he had charisma. when i went on tour I had red white and blue linds made for me just like ernies in 1976. the problem with most posts on this site is the newcomers have little or no respect for the oldtimers. I have gotten alot of trash from a few people on this site but there were few people that could throw a bowling ball like I could high track with alot of revs with a perfect approach and the 1st bowler with a high backswing. ernie you once told me if you threw my ball you would win most all the tournements you bowled in. to me that was a great compliment . you are and always will be one of my idols, keep bowling.
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Post by SC on Aug 2, 2003 20:41:12 GMT -5
Richie Hornreich had a very high backswing in his heyday, before you.
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Post by LC on Aug 4, 2003 14:46:34 GMT -5
I have known the horn since 1971 or 2 but his swing was past shoulder you are correct but to me I did not consider it high. But now that I think of it Bob Perry had a high swing too. There is another name that should have more posts on it he was great. I remember going to Lodi lanes in 75 or so with Roth and Simo and seeing him for the 1st time. He bowled with Teata Semiz and he shot 8 something for 3 and I was Impressed. Last time I Saw him was the night I bowled Grimaldi at bowlrite I hope he is still clean becouse he had alot of talent.
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Post by SC on Aug 4, 2003 18:09:12 GMT -5
Perry has been clean for the past ten years from what I heard. I know he was clean the last time I saw him about nine years ago at jersey lanes. He was not acting like a maniac. Anyway, Lc he has been using his real name Pucynski or something close to that since the ninties. He won a high roller in the nineties for 100g. You can go to the high roller website and see that he was in the shootout round by qualifying in the 50 and over category at the recent mini megabucks in Jersey. heard that he opened the last three frames which cost him a minute 6g. And I forgot he did have a very high backswing in his prime. Not nearly as high anymore. I know that until a few years ago, he and MIke foti had the high doubles record, 1645. Just some info for your scrapbook. And I just missed meeting him again at the place I bowl last week. His equipment is drilled by somebody in NY where I bowl.
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Post by GUEST on Sept 12, 2003 23:22:49 GMT -5
How come in all your posts none of u ever mention one of the most notorious action bowlers in NYC. His name was Loner and he was one of the best action bowlers ever. Has anyone heard of him?
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Post by GUEST on Sept 13, 2003 19:37:57 GMT -5
Never heard of loner and I knew the best. Guess he was alone including action. Bob Perry by the by is bowling in a triples league this season with the best amateur of the nineties, Mike Neumann who has relocated to the New York area.
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Post by Just Me on Sept 27, 2003 18:04:39 GMT -5
Bob Perry iis bowling Thurs nights at 34th ave bowl with Mike Newman. Super tough shot, don't think Perry broke 500 last week. Newman's averaging less than a deuce.
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Post by Guest on Sept 29, 2003 15:17:37 GMT -5
Is NEUMANN still bowling there with perry? His backer and also Perry's dumped Neumann.him and somebody else picked up Neumann.
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Post by thecanebellsouthnet on Oct 5, 2003 18:13:16 GMT -5
I saw on your list of Greatest Action Bowlers that you have someone named Leon Arkin. I was wondering if you could give me any more information on him, like when he bowled or a picture or something like that. I am related to someone who used to bowl competitively at the least, if not professionally and I was just wondering if this is the same person. It would be really cool if it is to show him because I'm sure he would have no idea he's on this list if it actually is the same person. i bowled against leon in 1961, he was heavy set, bowled at kings lanes on flatbush and farragut , with jimmy allen his mentor at the pro shop there in 1959. the match i bowled was doubles, his partner was tony marine, and mine was bob petrany at the lanes at the navy yard . they beat us 4 straight as i bowled 4 low dueces and they all bowled in the 220s Thanks!
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Post by thecanebellsouthnet on Oct 5, 2003 18:26:52 GMT -5
I know Ernie never threw a load like many. Stevie, was he right about this guy BELL crushing Ernie? Biggest load I saw was a guy named Mario who came to Central quite often. His ball weighed at least 18 pounds. One night the lanes were hooking so much that he had alot of trouble keeping the ball on the right side. We were cracking up in the back. Another guy Joe Leggett from Lyons Lanes in the 70s threw a load and never denied it. He was tough. Try getting him into a match with a legal ball. Impossible. Iggy Russo threw a load many times, although he did not need it. i found one of marios loads it was 12 pounder with a lot of something in it. it was a cherry white dot on the rack at av m in brooklyn. didnt know what it was when i picked it up off the rack and threw it a (semifingertp) and was in the left gutter before the dots, i moved to about 40 and looked at thte gutter at 50 feet and struck. the next shot took off and took 3 off the left as i laid it a little short we all got a laugh. i think snake picked up and played around with it for a while
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