Post by old dog on Oct 23, 2003 11:27:34 GMT -5
Bowling Articles
Coincidence or ?
Read my article below, The PBA, my worst nightmare, posted here Dec. 1998, (prior to the new PBA)
at which time the PBA visited this site and we exchanged e-mails
(Read The E-mail from the PBA to ActionBowlers / Click Here)
The PBA, My Worst Nightmare
My name is butch the gambler, I'm from Brooklyn NY and I started bowling action in 1957 at the age of 13. These were the great days of bowling before the PBA came along and corrupted it. This site is dedicated to the truly greats of the game, the action bowlers.
The PBA screwed up right from day one; many of the bowlers that signed with them in the early years were great characters loaded with color and personality. The PBA, being the idiots that they are, not only didn't take advantage of the greatest show on earth, but chose to penalize and strip these people of their natural gamesmanship and emotion. Tennis became so popular because of the bad boys of the game; bowlings bad boys could have made everyone else look like wanna bees. Instead of highlighting what people love to see the most, it was wrongfully taken away from all of us. The greatness of any head to head competition is the unmonitored emotion that goes with it; the PBA turned potential super stars into robots. Bowling always received good ratings, If I were producing the show the ratings would have been spectacular. The guy who initiated the dress code for TV should of been put in jail for robbing the great personalities of the game of their identity, not to mention the huge amounts of additional income they could of earned along with the notoriety they would have received. Because of my love of the game, I watched bowling every Saturday for years, these were the same guys I bowled with and against in my early days, when I would see the Joe College make over the PBA did on them, I wanted to puke, and many times did. While I'm at it, I might as well also blast this organization for being piss poor contract negotiators, how in the world are golf and tennis pros making fortunes, when the most popular game of all is still in the dark ages of prize funds, they should be at the very least, ten times what they are. This site is not for the average bowling fan. It's for all the people that were involved with the great action bowling of the past, to my knowledge; it doesn't exist any more, at least not to the extent of what it was. I would like everyone that was, or is, part of the action scene, to share their memories, good or bad, with all the visitors to this site. At present I am working on a motion picture deal with Fine Line Cinema about my life story, the working title is ACTION. It's about the hay days of action bowling from the fifties through the seventies….
This is my opinion of the PBA organization, not the bowlers, who I think are the greatest.
Clifford Nordquist a.k.a. butch the gambler
=====================================
When Butch first opened this site these are just some of the back and forth messages .
Butch Gets Told Off.
Action Bowlers
Guestbook Message
( butch gets told off )
To Butch
Women in Bowling
Wednesday, 13-Jan-99 10:44:33
Message:
205.188.198.163 writes:
Let me tell you something, get with the 90's cause i guarantee you were good in your day
(the stone age) but I am female and i'll bowl you any day of the week . Roxi
(Answer)
To Roxi
I would like you to name me one sport that a women at the top her her game could beat a man at the top of his game. It sure isn't bowling, although they have made the game so easy these days it's almost a joke. Besides, I would never even consider bowling a women, I have no interest in it. Have you ever bet money on your self against someone else, if so, how much. Did you ever hear the word, choke..
butch
(Answer)
well Butch,
let me tell you some of my credits....i currently have a 219 average and have>had an average of 208 - 219 for the passed 8 years or more. I have 2 KBC >titles. 4 ABT titles.2 LIBT titles. I only bowl in mens leagues and have won >the high average awards 2 years in a row, Bye the way i am the only woman in >the league. I have made a name for myself in the bowling industry and the fact>of all my hard work and effort to be concidered a bowler in the sport of >bowling as opposed to a woman barefoot and pregnant is hard enough to fit in >without a male shouvinist pig like yourself making comments about woman. And >further more i doubt you ever had a relationship with a real woman cause with>the attitude like yours you must be single and lonly and i really feel sorry>for you.....my sympathy and pity goes out to you>>
P.S. you wouldnt concider bowling me because i just make kick your butt and>you wouldnt want to be seen walking out of the alley with your so called tail >between your legs. >Roxi
(Answer)
To Roxi
My statements are only my opinion, I'm surprised they mean so much to you because your opinion means nothing to me. It's a shame you can't communicate without getting nasty and have to result to name calling like a child would. The figures you gave me I'm sure are true and that's what I'm talking about when I say todays averages have become a joke. You didn't address my question about if you ever put up any real money of your own in a head to head match game, I'll take it for granted that you have not.
Best Regards
butch>>
(Answer)
To Butch,
We used to bowl action every Friday night at Woodhaven Lanes, I have a
challenge for you come to Gil Hodges Lanes on a Friday Night at 10 pm where i
run Brackets.
Oh wait maybe I should explain to you what a Bracket is because they appeared
after the invention of the rubber ball. I have plenty of Men including myself
that would like to take your money. How about put your money where your mouth
is. Secondly I only called you a male pig because your opinions are published on
the internet which try to demean woman and that affends me. You know i am not
knocking your accomplishments in your career in bowling why would you get a
web page to knock the accomplishments of anyone else and why would you publish
such a statemnet about women.
(Answer)
To Roxi
Your absolutely right, I do not know what a bracket is. I have not stepped foot into a bowling alley since the late seventies and have no wish to do so, it is no longer the sport that I loved. Secondly, as I have stated before, under no condition would I of ever bowled against a women, it doesn't interest me, and I have nothing to prove.
We come from two different worlds, you wouldn't understand or want to be a part of my world, and I don't want to be a part of your world. Amongst other things, I'm a professional gambler and do not get involved with amateurs. Any statement I made on my website on the internet is only my opinion, if I don't have the right to my own opinion what do I have the right to. I didn't claim it to be the gospel, I didn't even claim it to be correct.
butch.
P.S.
Is there any more action bowling, if so, where, when, and who is involved. What type of money do they bet against each other these days. We use to bet thousands, and that's when a dollar was worth a lot more. What's the average amount you bet on yourself. That is, if you do bet.
If you would like, I might have you on my cable TV show one day.
(The only thing I knocked was the PBA and I believe I am 100% correct).
actions back
Sunday, 24-Jan-99 04:00:17
Message:
205.188.195.31 writes:
action was big in the 70's even the 60's now its getting bigger, and the bowlers are getting stiffer, new equiptment better lane conditions better averages, to me, that means no competition to the guys of yesteryears, like MIKE "THE LEGEND" GAITO, all washed up and no where to turn, but a bowling alley fly and porter, if you ask me the big guys of today are patrick allen, mike mullin, and myself..... MIKE GAITO YOUR DAYS ARE OVER SEE YA IN THE NEXT MELLENIUM........ P.S. PICK UP THAT CIGGERATE BUTTTTT.....
anthony
Butch,
I loved reading all of the action stories. You see my father new all of the
bowlers you mention. My dad's name is Kc Volpi. Let me know if you knew him.
I remember as a kid going with him to all the alleys. Anyway, good luck with
the book.
Coincidence or ?
Read my article below, The PBA, my worst nightmare, posted here Dec. 1998, (prior to the new PBA)
at which time the PBA visited this site and we exchanged e-mails
(Read The E-mail from the PBA to ActionBowlers / Click Here)
The PBA, My Worst Nightmare
My name is butch the gambler, I'm from Brooklyn NY and I started bowling action in 1957 at the age of 13. These were the great days of bowling before the PBA came along and corrupted it. This site is dedicated to the truly greats of the game, the action bowlers.
The PBA screwed up right from day one; many of the bowlers that signed with them in the early years were great characters loaded with color and personality. The PBA, being the idiots that they are, not only didn't take advantage of the greatest show on earth, but chose to penalize and strip these people of their natural gamesmanship and emotion. Tennis became so popular because of the bad boys of the game; bowlings bad boys could have made everyone else look like wanna bees. Instead of highlighting what people love to see the most, it was wrongfully taken away from all of us. The greatness of any head to head competition is the unmonitored emotion that goes with it; the PBA turned potential super stars into robots. Bowling always received good ratings, If I were producing the show the ratings would have been spectacular. The guy who initiated the dress code for TV should of been put in jail for robbing the great personalities of the game of their identity, not to mention the huge amounts of additional income they could of earned along with the notoriety they would have received. Because of my love of the game, I watched bowling every Saturday for years, these were the same guys I bowled with and against in my early days, when I would see the Joe College make over the PBA did on them, I wanted to puke, and many times did. While I'm at it, I might as well also blast this organization for being piss poor contract negotiators, how in the world are golf and tennis pros making fortunes, when the most popular game of all is still in the dark ages of prize funds, they should be at the very least, ten times what they are. This site is not for the average bowling fan. It's for all the people that were involved with the great action bowling of the past, to my knowledge; it doesn't exist any more, at least not to the extent of what it was. I would like everyone that was, or is, part of the action scene, to share their memories, good or bad, with all the visitors to this site. At present I am working on a motion picture deal with Fine Line Cinema about my life story, the working title is ACTION. It's about the hay days of action bowling from the fifties through the seventies….
This is my opinion of the PBA organization, not the bowlers, who I think are the greatest.
Clifford Nordquist a.k.a. butch the gambler
=====================================
When Butch first opened this site these are just some of the back and forth messages .
Butch Gets Told Off.
Action Bowlers
Guestbook Message
( butch gets told off )
To Butch
Women in Bowling
Wednesday, 13-Jan-99 10:44:33
Message:
205.188.198.163 writes:
Let me tell you something, get with the 90's cause i guarantee you were good in your day
(the stone age) but I am female and i'll bowl you any day of the week . Roxi
(Answer)
To Roxi
I would like you to name me one sport that a women at the top her her game could beat a man at the top of his game. It sure isn't bowling, although they have made the game so easy these days it's almost a joke. Besides, I would never even consider bowling a women, I have no interest in it. Have you ever bet money on your self against someone else, if so, how much. Did you ever hear the word, choke..
butch
(Answer)
well Butch,
let me tell you some of my credits....i currently have a 219 average and have>had an average of 208 - 219 for the passed 8 years or more. I have 2 KBC >titles. 4 ABT titles.2 LIBT titles. I only bowl in mens leagues and have won >the high average awards 2 years in a row, Bye the way i am the only woman in >the league. I have made a name for myself in the bowling industry and the fact>of all my hard work and effort to be concidered a bowler in the sport of >bowling as opposed to a woman barefoot and pregnant is hard enough to fit in >without a male shouvinist pig like yourself making comments about woman. And >further more i doubt you ever had a relationship with a real woman cause with>the attitude like yours you must be single and lonly and i really feel sorry>for you.....my sympathy and pity goes out to you>>
P.S. you wouldnt concider bowling me because i just make kick your butt and>you wouldnt want to be seen walking out of the alley with your so called tail >between your legs. >Roxi
(Answer)
To Roxi
My statements are only my opinion, I'm surprised they mean so much to you because your opinion means nothing to me. It's a shame you can't communicate without getting nasty and have to result to name calling like a child would. The figures you gave me I'm sure are true and that's what I'm talking about when I say todays averages have become a joke. You didn't address my question about if you ever put up any real money of your own in a head to head match game, I'll take it for granted that you have not.
Best Regards
butch>>
(Answer)
To Butch,
We used to bowl action every Friday night at Woodhaven Lanes, I have a
challenge for you come to Gil Hodges Lanes on a Friday Night at 10 pm where i
run Brackets.
Oh wait maybe I should explain to you what a Bracket is because they appeared
after the invention of the rubber ball. I have plenty of Men including myself
that would like to take your money. How about put your money where your mouth
is. Secondly I only called you a male pig because your opinions are published on
the internet which try to demean woman and that affends me. You know i am not
knocking your accomplishments in your career in bowling why would you get a
web page to knock the accomplishments of anyone else and why would you publish
such a statemnet about women.
(Answer)
To Roxi
Your absolutely right, I do not know what a bracket is. I have not stepped foot into a bowling alley since the late seventies and have no wish to do so, it is no longer the sport that I loved. Secondly, as I have stated before, under no condition would I of ever bowled against a women, it doesn't interest me, and I have nothing to prove.
We come from two different worlds, you wouldn't understand or want to be a part of my world, and I don't want to be a part of your world. Amongst other things, I'm a professional gambler and do not get involved with amateurs. Any statement I made on my website on the internet is only my opinion, if I don't have the right to my own opinion what do I have the right to. I didn't claim it to be the gospel, I didn't even claim it to be correct.
butch.
P.S.
Is there any more action bowling, if so, where, when, and who is involved. What type of money do they bet against each other these days. We use to bet thousands, and that's when a dollar was worth a lot more. What's the average amount you bet on yourself. That is, if you do bet.
If you would like, I might have you on my cable TV show one day.
(The only thing I knocked was the PBA and I believe I am 100% correct).
actions back
Sunday, 24-Jan-99 04:00:17
Message:
205.188.195.31 writes:
action was big in the 70's even the 60's now its getting bigger, and the bowlers are getting stiffer, new equiptment better lane conditions better averages, to me, that means no competition to the guys of yesteryears, like MIKE "THE LEGEND" GAITO, all washed up and no where to turn, but a bowling alley fly and porter, if you ask me the big guys of today are patrick allen, mike mullin, and myself..... MIKE GAITO YOUR DAYS ARE OVER SEE YA IN THE NEXT MELLENIUM........ P.S. PICK UP THAT CIGGERATE BUTTTTT.....
anthony
Butch,
I loved reading all of the action stories. You see my father new all of the
bowlers you mention. My dad's name is Kc Volpi. Let me know if you knew him.
I remember as a kid going with him to all the alleys. Anyway, good luck with
the book.
