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Post by joeyja on Aug 9, 2008 20:10:34 GMT -5
You know I "RESPECT " the opinions of a everybody who's voiced there opinion . But only Lou Capasso even mentioned Bobby Perry ( I think). When Bobby walked in he put the fear of God in people . I only saw him lose once in 7 yrs of knowing him . That was to Steve Tripp in Wallington lanes . It was a Three game match . They split the first two and Bobby left a ringing ten for the money in the third match. I went to places where people wouldn't bowl him . If he wanted action they made him shoot for score . First 680 (winner easy , didn't make the 4th frame of the third game ) and then 700 (again never bowled the 7th frame of the 3rd game) . And say what you want , Bobby NEVER threw a bad shot when the money was on the line . Never . I saw him beat almost EVERYONE of the guys that are mentioned in these threads .EVERYONE of them . I remember meeting Earl Anthony ( He was in town visiting )in Paramus lanes one night (I was a teenager at the time at that time he bowled anchor for D'amato paperstock , Mark Roth bowled leadoff ) and Bobby introduced me to him . Bobby walked away and Earl said to me "You know , he's the best bowler in the world " nodding his head pointing to Bobby . Bobby was the best unequivacably, without a doubt . Anyone who truly knows bowling knows that on a given night even a blind squirrel could find a nut . But a Lion will always eat . Bobby was a Lion on the lanes . Again in his time period I saw him beat EVERYONE of the guys mentioned in these memos .
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Post by daryld on Aug 19, 2008 15:38:55 GMT -5
Hello joeyja, I remember hearing of Bob Perry and certainly would have like to have meet him. There was alot of tigers throughout the years and I enjoyed all! Rudy was impressive with his act but when things were not right he suffered. Steve Tripp is a bowler I know and he could be tough. Willie Willis was tough if you didn't get to him. Steve Fehr of Cincinnati was a tough bowler but has been slowed by injury. Walt Corminsky of South Africa is a tiger who had alot of tough breaks but finally beat Chris Barnes to win the world masters. To bad we could only get to promote some of these great action shooters instead of touring pros. We had some great megabucks shooters who excelled on the difficult conditions. I personally think the toughest I have seen on late night house shots on burned out lanes was Norm Duke. He has magic in his ability to change hand releases. One short story, I walked into Bloomfield Ct. where they were shooting pot games. Mike Collins (once a feared lefty in early 60's) ran the pro shop. He was bowling with a few top average bowlers. Polychem owned the house and the lanes had become difficult. High game was around 185. Earl Anthony came in (he represented Polychem) and asked if he could bowl. Sure!! He walked up threw two warmups then proceed to throw the first 7 strikes!!! Mike then turned and said "What do we know about bowling". (Do you remember Mike on Burton's tips on ball drilling on ABC when he was drilling for Lichstein on the tour}.
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Post by arod on Aug 21, 2008 11:37:16 GMT -5
You're overrating Bob Perry and I knew him well until he moved to Texas. He was not around when Horn and Lemon were at their best and never would have beaten them. Perry never beat Faino or Kidder the two best of the 70s. Steve Tripp was nothing compared to those mentioned.Perry was an excellent bowler and his best achievements were winning the national regional title and of course the two high rollers as bob Puchynski. To make the above comments about Bob Perry probably means you never saw Lemon, Horn, Kidder or Faino at their best. Mchugh and Engan at their best were better than Perry and of course Schlegel.
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Post by joeyja on Aug 28, 2008 22:39:29 GMT -5
One, , You must be thinking of someone else . Two, If you say Bobby was overated obviously your bowling aptitude isn't that great . Three , with the advent of the so called "WALL" on a given night anybody with a little talent could beat anyone . A lucky shot here a tap there a cross shot over there . He may never be voted Man of the Year . But when it came to bowling everyone with bowling aptitude respected him .EVERYONE of the bowlers on this list did . WHY , cause they had a clue . The story I told about Earl Anthony is true . You didn't have to like Bobby BUT when it came to Bowling you had respect him . Anyone who didn't became the NEXT victim . The story I told about the match in Conn. went like this . I'm standing in the Lakeview Bowl O mat in Paterson and Bobby gets a call . He comes back and says Joey were going to Conn tonight . That was a guy named Bill Daley . Me and Hank Berhbom are going to bowl a Doubles match against Willie Willis and the top House bowler for $5000 a game . I had never met Hank or Daley until that night . We walk into the Alley and Willie Willis says " I told you to bring any righty you wanted , BUT I didn't know you were going to bring HIM " . It was late when we got there but it was packed and still $5000 agame turned to $300 . The lanes were SCREAMING that night , they had a hard time shooting 185 . Bobby ave 240 . When we left Willis walks up and says if you want action don't bring him anymore . Willis was on TV the week before shooting I think 138 setting an all time low for TV at the time . Again there isn't a guy on this list that didn't respect him if not fear him . That includes Kidder and Revs . FYI you know they made a movie about Bobby's life . It's called High Roller : The BoB Perry Story .I just bought the DVD . I haven't seen Bobby in Many years .It's good to see he's cleaned himself up . I hope he sees this post. If you do Bobby I'm proud of you buddy . Good Luck....................Joey A
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Post by joeyja on Aug 28, 2008 22:58:48 GMT -5
Just a quick Add on . About Steve Tripp . To call him NOTHING makes you lose all credibility . He may not be a legend . But on a given night he could beat anyone , and he NEVER bowled bad . If you beat him , you had to BEAT . It was never a gift . I knew all the guys you mentioned and of course they were all good . Bobby beat EVERYONE of them at one time or another . EVERYONE of them . Bobby had world records turned down by the ABC . In middltown he ave 256 for 102 games in a summer league . That Summer he shot 13 300's and 7 800's . All turned down . He was ave 266 until 2 wks before the league ended .
I bowled in a regional against Lemon in Lyons lanes . He pounded me . I was no legend but I could twist it up pretty good and when the "Wall " was up I knew how to line up . A monkey could score on the wall but a good bowler became great on the wall . Lyons lane swas easy back then I was 200 + stoned out of my mind back then and I couldn't even smell Bobby . It was like his job bowling there He'd win at least 2 of the three pots AND the trifecta almost every week .
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Post by joeyja on Aug 28, 2008 23:33:12 GMT -5
And more I watched Bobby beat Schlegel like a red headed stepchild . I respect everyone of the bowlers you named . BUT not one of them could walk in and say I'm a lock . Bobby was as good as anyone Not just on a given day BUT consistently . I'm sure there were times when I wasn't around that Bpbby lost (I'd have to see it to believe it ) there BUT i've seen him beat everyone you named that was still around .
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Post by Zoo Master on Sept 1, 2008 1:12:19 GMT -5
No one will ever know but what would of been if Bobby didn't have that accident and didn't get hooked on drugs at the time to deal with the pain?...
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Post by joeyja on Sept 3, 2008 14:07:15 GMT -5
Hey Zoo Master ,
Your right , And that's why the "Who's the GREATEST" argument in any sport is the greatest and most fun argument . Watching the TV every week is proof enough that on a given night anyone succeptable to get beat . But for unknown reasons (HMMM HMMM) when the cash was on the line some people just weren't as good , Maybe they squeeze a little and leave the solid 10 or know their gonna pull under pressure so they overcompensate .
I LOVE this website . Gets my juices flowing ...............joeyja
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Post by daryld on Sept 19, 2008 15:55:11 GMT -5
Well, I was bowling fairly well around that time and I remember the name. Never bowl him although I might have in some qualifying rounds. Wished I could have meet him. I know Steve Tripp and he can be tough when conditions are right. Never meet someone who could not be beaten. Excuse me, maybe someone who would only bowl when conditions meet their game and there was some of these. We all want an edge!!! Lemon when I saw him killed me with his ability to throw on dry conditions with hardly hooking the ball. We set up the conditions testing the new Rhino balls and in a money match Mark knocked off all the Brunswick Pro staff players on stripped lanes *(no oil) throwing like he was shooting a ten pin hitting 289!!! But Bob Perry certainly looked good in the highrollers. What is he doing now.
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Post by joeyja on Sept 19, 2008 18:38:27 GMT -5
Back in the early 80's I was with Bobby everyday . But I haven't seen him in many years . I live in Fl now and probably never will . BUT I'd love to . To congratulate him . I bought the DVD of the Movie they mad e about his life story . I'm proud of him . I'd love to go to the track with him to bet the grass horses the day after the rain . Looking for Bold Ruler's that were 6 furlong closers stretching out to a mile . BUT Back to the bowling I went with Bobby everywhere back then And I Don't care who it was Where it was , what words came out of their mouth When Bobby walked in EVERYONE shut up . They knew that if they talked shit that Bobby would make them back it up . Every single person mentioned on this website , if they were around in Bobby's day He beat em .
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Post by Zoo Master on Sept 24, 2008 6:20:04 GMT -5
Back in the early 80's I was with Bobby everyday . But I haven't seen him in many years . I live in Fl now and probably never will . BUT I'd love to . To congratulate him . I bought the DVD of the Movie they mad e about his life story . I'm proud of him . I'd love to go to the track with him to bet the grass horses the day after the rain . Looking for Bold Ruler's that were 6 furlong closers stretching out to a mile . BUT Back to the bowling I went with Bobby everywhere back then And I Don't care who it was Where it was , what words came out of their mouth When Bobby walked in EVERYONE shut up . They knew that if they talked shit that Bobby would make them back it up . Every single person mentioned on this website , if they were around in Bobby's day He beat em . Here's a promo video about him www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoxb6NQpDr8Additional info at www.actionbowlers.com/action/perry.htm
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Post by joeyja on Sept 27, 2008 19:45:24 GMT -5
Thank You
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Post by daryld on Oct 29, 2008 14:00:12 GMT -5
Hello everyone. Was watching the Bob Perry Story last night. Certainly rings home on some of the bad breaks I have been apart of and witness in bowling. I remember bowling the Newsday and coming out of the first round I was bowling very well with tons of area. Sam Zurich made a comment that he had never seen so many rev's (not as many a Jason Belmonte!!!). Then my back went out (blew three disk) and I was unable to continue and had to take a DNF. I retired for a few years with this setback. Then in the Hanover tournament in PA I started with the first ten strikes on a very low and tight condition ( alot of oil) when I tore off the ends of skin on my fingers ( could see bone) and with much blood was unable to continue. I heared that Bob is now suffering from ill health and I wish him the best. One of the most impressive lefties was a young (17) bowler named Stan Sharpe of Sioux Falls. His ball would send messengers of the kickbacks like nothing ever seen. He was hot winning every tournament he entered. Then he lost his life in a car accident. In the east there was Mike Lothrop of Dover NH who as Rev's knows was an extremely talented bowler who had tremendous rev's and could change his role. Lichstein told me that he thought Mike was the most talented lefty. Mikes weakness was the mental aspect of the game. Then alot of bad breaks and health problems took him out of bowling. I have heared that he is back and I wish him the best.
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Post by pat on Apr 28, 2011 10:45:33 GMT -5
THE GREATEST ACTION BOWLER I EVER SAW WAS RICHIE (JUNIOR) PIZZUTI OUT OF WOODLAWN LANES IN THE BRONX,HE WAS THE CALMEST MONEY BOWLER EVER,NOTHING EVER GOT TO HIM,I MADE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON HIM, WE USED TO TRAVEL ALL OVER FOR ACTION,WE HAD TO, NO ONE WOULD WANT TO COME TO HIS HOUSE TO BOWL HIM,SO HE HAD TO GO TO TO THEIRS.I BOWLED ON A 3 MAN 525 TEAM WITH JUNIOR ,LEFTY PAT PILLA AND MYSELF IN 1961 WE SEWED UP 1ST PLACE MONEY WITH 8 WEEKS LEFT, I WAS 199 PAT WAS 203 AND JR WAS 22O,I ALMOST GOT KICKED OUT OF THE ABC FOR DUMPING MY AVERAGE FROM 199 TO 167 IN THOSE REMAINING 8 WEEKS, EVERYBODY WAS SCHEMING BACK IN THE DAY. ANYBODY FROM WOODLAWN LANES WHO READS THIS POST PLEASE WRITE ME AT GPOP4521@AOL.COM I WOULD LOVE TO HERE FROM YOU PAT DESIMONE
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Post by thericard300 on Jun 14, 2011 17:38:47 GMT -5
Where are Ricky and Geno papandrea these brothers from Long Island bowled alot of action with Sandy Catalano and Mr Bill Daley. Bill Daley says Geno was the best lefty action bowler of all time. I remember Ricky bowling against Rudy Revs on 11 and 12 and 9 and 10 at Deer Park Bowl....They are BOTH action Bowling hall of famers
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