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Post by STEPIN FETCHIT on Jan 25, 2005 14:53:19 GMT -5
Jeff whom?
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Post by STEPIN FETCHIT on Jan 25, 2005 14:55:05 GMT -5
Only kidding. heard about him. he is a legend.
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Post by HarryBar on Mar 5, 2005 13:40:21 GMT -5
Just was looking at the list. Maybe I missed seeing the following names, but if not these guys belong:
Frank Medici Chicago Bill Jargella Hank Boroughs Dewey Blair
Also Jack Clemente is spelled incorrectly
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Post by Harry the Horse on Aug 8, 2005 16:19:47 GMT -5
Who is in charge of these nominations? My nomination of Frank Medici was seconded by Harry Bar. I bowled with Frankie and against him, and he was certainly one of the top action bowlers I have ever seen. Deadly inside shooter.
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Post by Zoo Master on Aug 8, 2005 23:40:16 GMT -5
The entry has been made, you can check the greatest page...
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Post by Harry the Horse on Aug 12, 2005 0:19:31 GMT -5
Now that you have all these nominations, when do you have elections? And how is someone elected? Who votes? How often? Who's guarding the ballot boxes? Do you use voting machines? Why the hell don't I just go to sleep instead of asking a lot of questions at 1:00 AM? Of course, in the old days, staying up to 8 am was standard, then having breakfast, and going straight to the track, sleep two hours in the car. How the hell did we do it?
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Post by Zoo Master on Aug 12, 2005 20:09:29 GMT -5
No date has been set and no committe members have been selected. A lot of work still has to be done...
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Post by Harry the Horse on Aug 19, 2005 13:30:43 GMT -5
That’s okay, Zoo, I understand that these things take time. Just out of curiosity, though, if the machinery for elections is not set up yet, how come I read that Ernie was just recently inducted into the Action Bowler's HOF? He certainly belongs there, but how did he get elected?
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Post by oldguy on Jan 2, 2007 16:10:15 GMT -5
Mike Norris from Michigan should be nominated. The guy's not afraid of anyone and he can flat out play with anyone. He's always in the thick of the action at the super. I think he goes by TopGun2001 and you can read his thread on action at forum.pba.com/ultimatebb.cgi?/ubb/get_topic/f/8/t/004699.htmlI have several stories from the Super. 1st real match I ever bowled was about 1 am and I get called out by Rich Howell. I have no equipment so I use JJ's Fire Power in my street shoes and beat him pretty bad. I won't go into detail with the JJ match. Much love bro... Mike Neuman telling everyone @ western I was a coward because I didn't want to bowl so after I had enough we shoe up for 1-1-2 I lose totals double the bets I win totals the next set. The last set Mike was chirping and I told him if the breakpoint comes in about 2 ft hes done. Last set doubled bets again won game 1 193-186 the shot did what i asked in the 10th and game 2 I told him it came in and proceded to toss the front 9. Mike quit after that game. Made a buttload in the back too. Man have some more stories but where is all the action. I miss you please come back! [Frown]
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Post by lanny44 on Jan 13, 2007 12:09:52 GMT -5
New Jersey is completely left out of the discussions here.Us Jersey guys of course went to Central, Raceway, Whitestone, Midtown etc. to see,bet and even play but we had our own action where lots of $$$$ changed hands and the best Metro area guys came to get some.Like to Philly to take a chance w/ Jack Winters who was a "killer" in his house-- guys took the shot because 10,000 or so could be won. Same could be said about several Jersey houses and I hope to add more later--BellClair, Lions, Hy-way,Palladium, etc. more to come.
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Post by relic on Jan 13, 2007 19:54:14 GMT -5
lanny, i for one would love to hear about some of the jersey action bowlers, houses and matches. i was around the brooklyn action in the 60s and 70s and there was plenty of it with guys that came from all over. especially to ave m bowl and seaview before it. i never went to the jersey action so i know nothing about it. i did go to paramus once in the early 60s to watch the classic league and was very impressed with all the big name bowlers that were there.
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Post by Zoo Master on Jan 13, 2007 20:03:01 GMT -5
Lanny44 Welcome It would be great to have a whole section here about the Jersey action. I just need the information from all you guys that know about it...
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Post by Rocco "The Rock" on Feb 6, 2007 10:57:39 GMT -5
I would like to nominate Harry the Horse for the Action Bowlers HOF. From around 1960 to about 1965 he held his own against every top action bowler in the Bronx, and the Bronx had a lot of great ones. The thing about the Horse was that no one ever saw him shoot a bad game. The only way to beat him was to shoot sky high numbers. Guys would take him on, but even when they did, they usually acted like they wished they were somewhere else, because they knew he wasn't going to beat himself. There wasn't much he didn't know about bowling, and he would rattle his opponent by giving the guy advice about the guy's line, etc. Like "on twelve, move two boards to the right and speed up your delivery a little." That was funny enough, but the really funny part about that was that he would actually give the guy good advice, because he always knew what someone was doing wrong, but his opponent would never take his advice, and the Horse knew the guy wouldn't, so he would just give it, and watch the other guy screw up by not listening to him. He was funny as hell, and a great bowler.
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Post by Zoo Master on Feb 6, 2007 22:52:52 GMT -5
I would like to nominate Harry the Horse for the Action Bowlers HOF. From around 1960 to about 1965 he held his own against every top action bowler in the Bronx, and the Bronx had a lot of great ones. The thing about the Horse was that no one ever saw him shoot a bad game. The only way to beat him was to shoot sky high numbers. Guys would take him on, but even when they did, they usually acted like they wished they were somewhere else, because they knew he wasn't going to beat himself. There wasn't much he didn't know about bowling, and he would rattle his opponent by giving the guy advice about the guy's line, etc. Like "on twelve, move two boards to the right and speed up your delivery a little." That was funny enough, but the really funny part about that was that he would actually give the guy good advice, because he always knew what someone was doing wrong, but his opponent would never take his advice, and the Horse knew the guy wouldn't, so he would just give it, and watch the other guy screw up by not listening to him. He was funny as hell, and a great bowler. Thanks for the nomination, he definetly belongs on the list...
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Post by Bronx Old Timer on Feb 8, 2007 15:35:31 GMT -5
Not only did Harry the Horse keep everybody watching the match laughing like hell by giving his opponent advice about the guy's line, but I remember once in a big money match he started giving his opponent advice about the guy's mechanics – something like "Your backswing is out of sync with your third step." I don't know if he was right, although he always knew what he was talking about, but the upshot of it was that he got the other guy thinking about his mechanics during his approach instead of focusing on hitting his spot, and it completely screwed up the guy's concentration.
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Post by Rocco "The Rock" on Feb 8, 2007 17:19:20 GMT -5
I missed that one but I remember one night he was bowling a three game set total wood down at Tremont, and he was so far ahead after the first two games that he bowled the entire third game left handed. Shot around 210 and beat the other guy in the third game.
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Post by daryld on Mar 30, 2008 20:31:23 GMT -5
Jimmy Smith of the Brooklyn and later Buffalo was one of the greatest action shooters. After he claimed himself the world champion by traveling across the country beating all comers and had the longest reign as world champion (over Earl, Weber and Carter). From 1905 to 1925 all bowling was action and the Bowlmor had records once on this. He is in the Bowlling Hall of Fame and in his later years beat Count Gengler (forcing the Count into retirement). Also Mort Lindsey who bowled in the Bowlmor and can out of New Haven where he average 220 when 200 was fantastic. He was known as Moose and fired the ball and proved hard to beat in head to head matches. He is also in the Bowling Hall of Fame. But we never got to see these greats bowl otherwise they would be on the list.
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Post by daryld on Mar 30, 2008 20:47:24 GMT -5
In New England we all think of Ronnie Hatem as the great action shooters to come out of this area. He beat Jeff Kidder up here but lost in New York. He won alot of matches and lost some but when on he was tough. No one wanted to bowl him when he was on and he would bowl anyone. Jeff should remember him. He moved to Florida and ran a Bowling Lanes but became sick last year and past away a couple weeks ago. Ernie and Johnny might remember him.Eddie Butler (not anaction shooter) but a friend of Mark Roth and a legend inthis area as a tough tournament bowler and a great gentleman out of New York and Boston also past away in Florida. Bowling will miss them.
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Post by pjb on Jul 5, 2008 17:50:19 GMT -5
i just read this article and while 99% of this is correct, Pat Brannen never bowled anyone named Jeff Leone, I know because I am Pat Brannen. I do know Tony Leone who was good friends with Gordy and John Gualiteri( Who might i add could beat anyone on any given day). I know everyone spoken of in the article except Jeff. Hope this helps clear the air.
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Post by joeyja on Aug 28, 2008 11:13:10 GMT -5
I've seen the list of greatest action bowlers of all time . And I'll take it to my grave that Bobby Perry was the greatest bowler Action bowler ever . But I see names on this list that make me laugh . I won't mention them because I don't want to embarass anyone .Hey , anyone who's willing to put up the cash deserves respect .whether they deserve to be on an all time greatest list is another story . There are guys on this list that I beat . And I won't EVER put myself on this list . Plain and simple I don't belong there . But I've seen Duke Balady beat a lot of these guys . Dukey was from the lakeview bowl o mat in Paterson . And had ice water in his veins . I watched Duke bowl this guy . I forget his name a hefty kid (popular action guy back then who could twist it up with the best of them ) who was from the house in Hackensack . They were bowling a three game match and were tied after two and the guy from Hackensack throws 299 and Duke goes 2nd in the tenth and strikes out to throw 300 to win by a pin for $500. One of the greatest matches I've ever seen .
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Post by annie on Feb 25, 2009 16:17:35 GMT -5
Iwant to thank you for having Fats and Deacon on the Hall of Fame list. I am Fats Carosa's daughter. He pasted away in 1965 but I still remember going to Louisanna Lanes and watching my Dad practice on alley 1&2. Deacon was a great guy . They were a great team.
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Post by Zoo Master on Feb 27, 2009 21:41:09 GMT -5
Iwant to thank you for having Fats and Deacon on the Hall of Fame list. I am Fats Carosa's daughter. He pasted away in 1965 but I still remember going to Louisanna Lanes and watching my Dad practice on alley 1&2. Deacon was a great guy . They were a great team. In sixty five I was 21 years old and had seen them bowl many times. They were truly one of the very best doubles teams in the New York area. I would go out of my way to see them bowl action matches, I really enjoyed them and your dad was a great guy...
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Post by daryld on Oct 9, 2009 16:16:58 GMT -5
With Jeff Kitter then we should put Ronnie Hatem on there from Boston. He bowled Jeff an as the story goes beat him in Boston but was a great contrbutor to Jeff in New York. He is famous for bowling action in 1960's winning some big money as well as losing. He was feared by most an can be liken to Charlie Faino in style. Once he got lined up with his full roler look out. He ran Lanes in Florida but pass away last year. He was great before urthane.
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Post by daryld on Oct 9, 2009 16:23:07 GMT -5
Another bowler we might put on the list was Bob Chamberlain from Detroit. When I was bowling in that area the toughest bowler for action was Bob. This was told by reliable sources. Gene Stus was very tough but bowled in the big classic leagues carrying a top average. But for money on all conditions Bob was the best. I also think John Mazza (lefty) from outside Detroit bowled action but I might be wrong.
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Post by daryld on Oct 9, 2009 16:54:56 GMT -5
When I was in Cincinnati there was some tough bowlers but do not know if they bowled action,( Steve Fehr, Ron Pollard and his brother. There was another who was the top multiple winner in Vegas an top amatuer money winner for a few years but I can't remeber his name. Then the young Brian Himmler took Rev's and Del Ballard for a few thosand in his house. At that time Neuman, Rev's and Himmlar dominated with their hooking power. Times have changed as they are not feared. Steve Fehr is!! There are so many tough bowlers out of Ohio and Michigan that it would become a book.
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Post by yonkefirsch on Oct 20, 2009 23:51:11 GMT -5
I may have missed his name somewhere here, but if I didn't... how could you have left out Johnny Meyer? A top lefty with an amazing hook.
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Post by Zoo Master on Oct 21, 2009 7:33:16 GMT -5
I may have missed his name somewhere here, but if I didn't... how could you have left out Johnny Meyer? A top lefty with an amazing hook. The first time I saw Johnny Myers was at Parkway Lanes on Cropsey Ave in Brooklyn. He was teamed with Sis in a big match against Bert Goodman and Dick Martin (I believe). The house was packed for this match and Johnny and Sis walked right through them. I was extremely impressed by Johnny Myers. That match and Johnny were locked into my memory at a very young age, It was one of the first big matches I ever saw... Johnny Myers is on the greatest action bowlers list...
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Post by craig on May 10, 2010 19:40:14 GMT -5
Lot of great names on there guys, but does anyone remember Jerry Calypso? He ws a mad man, but when he was on, he could roll. Not sure whatever hapopened to him, but he had a great run.
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Post by fullroller on Sept 26, 2010 14:58:54 GMT -5
How could a list of action bowlers be complete without the following two names. Johnny Massaro who had as smooth an approach as Engan and could really through that two finger hard rubber ball. The other character was Joe "The Lock" Dellilo - Action bowler, backer and hustler supreme. Why did people still try to beat him even with his reputation as "The Lock"? He would answer that question with a smile "Because they hate me". Johnny Massaro helped me to become a much better bowler than I ever was. I would love watching him bowl!! He was an instructor at Gun Post Lanes and I actually stopped throwing a backup ball and went to a full roller...PS I am a girl...LOL Wasn't bad in my day and actually won a trophy from Gun Post Lanes for being the best female bowler in the leagues for 1962-1963.
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Post by arod on Oct 31, 2010 9:52:28 GMT -5
Johnny Massarro was good, but not even close to Engan. NOBODY, NOT even today, was ever as smooth as Engan. Joe the lock was a scumbag.
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