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Post by SUPERSTAR on May 12, 2003 15:30:49 GMT -5
HEY LOU, NO DISRESPECT TO YOU BUT I NEVER HEARD OF YOU. DO YOU STILL BOWL ACTION? I WOULD LOVE TO BOWL YOU OR SET UP A MATCH WITH SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS I KNOW WITH YOU.
I DON'T THINK YOU EVER BEAT KIDDER. THATS BECAUSE NO ONE EVER BEAT HIM.
WHERE DO YOU BOWL OUT OF NOW? IF YOU DON'T BOWL NOW, WHAT IS THE CLOSEST HOUSE TO YOUR HOME. I AM WILLING TO TRAVEL.
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Post by meeeeeeee on May 12, 2003 17:20:55 GMT -5
no i dont waste my time bowling anymore and it is true i did beat jeff and his buddy cliff with the ever famous daly backing them. and by the way another great bowler made mince meat out of him at bowlmor a guy buy the name of roy garcea. keep bowling becouse if you average 230 now you couldnt avg 175 in brooklyn in the 70,s the game is THAT EASY NOW. lets bowl today and THROW IT RIGHT AND WATCH IT STOP AT THE POCKET C,MON its not that tough anymore from 1975 to 1982 when i quit bowling i had 5 300 games i now have over 20 and i bowled them in about 3 years time
high average was 195 to 200 in classic leagues inthe 70,s i had not bowled for 8 years and averaged 231 bowling once a week with 4 300 games in 12 months
N.J. has always had easier conditions than n.y. averages were alway 15 to 20 pins higher in jersey
now every one averages a deuce and better bowling will NEVER BE THE SAME try golf or something and dont quit your day job cause the pba tour has had the same money on top for 30 years have they heard of raising the prize fund
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Post by Question mark on May 12, 2003 23:31:27 GMT -5
Lou, did you ever bowl in the old Met Majors at Bowlmor? I seem to remember most of the best bowlers around in that league, late 60's early 70's.
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Post by KNEWITALL on May 13, 2003 0:23:17 GMT -5
THAT'S BULLSHIT. IF YOU WERE 175 IN THE SEVENTIES YOU SUCKED, EVEN IN THE 60S IF YOU WERE 175. YOU WERE HORRIBLE. AND ROY GARCEA WAS OK BUT NOTHING SPECIAL. AND KIDDER AT HIS BEST LOST 5G TO PETE COUTURE IN THE 60S. STOP THE BS. AND IF LC WAS THAT GOOD, HE WOULD HAVE GONE BACK ON TOUR BUT STILL WOULD HAVE SUCKED WIND. THE TOUR MONEY IS BETTER NOW AND WILL GET BETTER WITH THE NEW OWNERS. STOP ALL THE BS.
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Post by KNEWITALL on May 13, 2003 0:26:34 GMT -5
AND IF YOU ARE 200 TODAY, YOU ARE STILL BETTER THAN AT LEAST 90-95 PER CENT OF ALL BOWLERS. LC CAN COME BACK TO THE GAME, SET UP THE LANES AND WE CAN BET THAT HE DOES NOT BOWL AT LEAST 232 EVERY GAME.
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Post by Lou on May 13, 2003 9:26:12 GMT -5
I did bowl in the met majors circa 1975 to 1978
yes there were great bowlers that bowled there .
and to the the gentleman who thinks i am BSing
sorry to let you know the truth. bowling today is half the game it use to be. and for the pba tour it took 25 years for the prize fund to actually increase, instead of decrease. oh and the new owners of the pba i wish them and the sport nothing but the best I still love the game but the plain truth is it has become way to easy.
In the 60's and 70's 190 was a good shooter today it is not very good . you can disrespect me and my bowling ability all you want but if i can avg 230 after a 8 year layoff, bowling once a week it is clear the game has become higher scoring.
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Post by 65 and still bowling on May 13, 2003 10:59:41 GMT -5
The kid was very good. Had more talent than any bowler I had ever seen. I bowled pot games at maple in the 1970,s and as a thirteen or fourteen year old he could hold his own against 195 shooters. At 16 when it came to the single's pot games most all would quit except a few diehards if Lou was there. I remember he would bug his father for money to bowl with us when he was about 13 years old. I personally thought he would have become a top tour player, i remember when he bowled his first regional as a pba member he was saying how he was going to cash or make the finals.
He won it, probobly the worst thing that could have happened. he went out on tour right after that, My opinion was he was still to young. anyway he was a great bowler, Big Mouth, but he could back his words.
Buy the way this is my 1st time to this sight and i am having a blast. anyone remember Nick Santagata as a bowler < he was another great bowler from maple a smart man quit young and became a jockey.
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Post by Senior Citizen on May 14, 2003 8:10:37 GMT -5
The only great bowler ever from Maple and he was the best at one time was Hornreich. Capasso would have never shined Hornreich's shoes at his best.
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Post by Senior Citizen on May 14, 2003 8:12:48 GMT -5
Back his words. He never put up his own cash.Hornreich always did and thousands at a clip.
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Post by I Know on May 14, 2003 14:34:14 GMT -5
Capasso was a very good bowler on walls. Who is he kidding? Kidder would have chopped him up on a real condition.
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Post by Louis on May 15, 2003 14:45:05 GMT -5
Walls maple was never a wall. and hornreich was one of my best friends after the 8 straight he lost to me on 47 and 48. and i always backed myself . the 1 st match with richie i put up half the 500 myself and my father put up 100 more. i won regionals on anything but walls. Not that i couldnt bowl on a wall. when i was about 14 petraglia was working with me he put a penny on a board with tape and i hit the penny 21 out of 25 times. so please do not berate my ability becouse most of you would not have bowled me at maple ,bay ridge, kenmore or diplomat lanes. especially 1975 till 1981.
One thing my father taught me was if you do not have anything nice to say dont say it. Kidder was a great action bowler no doubt, but he did lose to me ,burgland
another great bowler. I may not have amounted to much as a bowler but I have over 25 perfect games
1 pba title, plus numerous marathon wins and king of the hill wins and match game titles etc. etc.
and buy the way ask richie about the matches and how he would come to action with me and i would do all the bowling. Oh and we were close enough for me to be his sons Godfather. The horn will always be the best action bowler of all times. Doen't mean he never lost.
thanks for taking time to write me on this site and good bowling to all
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Post by 80s action king on May 15, 2003 15:00:20 GMT -5
Hey Lou
you sucked. horn was way better than you. of course if you bowl enough matches you have to win some of them. kidder was the greatest. you couldn't shine his balls. no one even mentions you as one of the greats. you are trying to convince everyone how good you were. if you were that good you wouldn't have to. alot of stiffs won regionals, even me. you probably won it in your own house. i would love to bowl you. keep dreaming.
lou capasso a great bowler? no way!!!!!!!
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Post by Mack the knife on May 15, 2003 16:48:36 GMT -5
I watched Lou bowl at maple lanes he was far from a chump on the lanes. He was a solid bowler in my opinion, even with that backswing!!!
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Post by Louis on May 15, 2003 16:59:56 GMT -5
If I was that bad why even write anything on this site,
but congradulations are in order if you won a regional
that is not an easy task. I won in Plainview long island in 1977 it was the 1st time i ever bowled there. but if you think i was a bad bowler you are entitled to an opinion thats why this is a free country. I have not bowled seriously since 1981 so bowling me would not mean much these days since the last time i threw a ball was in 1993. but i would still avg. 225 with these new conditions and equiptment.
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Post by Stevie Wonder on May 15, 2003 17:55:28 GMT -5
Lou, don't let these jerks insult you. They never knew you or saw you bowl.
I averaged 175 in the 60's and only bowled two games since(1993) 238 & 179(four spare misses). I was stunned. The ball went right into the pocket and I carried everything. The answer is lighter wood along with all the other technical changes. We used to shoot at 3lb 12oz and later 3lb 8oz. What is it now?
Sideboards are also alive now compared to then.
Even back in the day I averaged around 200 in pot games and bowled some action.
So bottom line is you were a terriffic bowler and a class guy. Love reading your posts. Thanks.
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Post by Louis on May 15, 2003 19:34:03 GMT -5
Thanks steve someone agree's about the new technology its not just in bowling its every sport baseball golf etc etc i am not knocking bowlers of today it just seems like all bowlers now avg over 210
back in the late 60's thru the early eighty's
if you averaged 200 you were special except for Lodi and Paramus where you could have averaged 200 in brooklyn and 225 or better at Lodi.
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Post by Senior citizen on May 15, 2003 20:34:42 GMT -5
lou you lie. you said how the horn backed you for 1500 against kidder. the last post said you always bet your cash. maple always had walls. nobody averages 230 on a real condition. next time i see the horn, he'll tell me how good you were. do not bs that the game became easy that's why you quit. there must be other reasons. alot of money in brackets especially at the megabuck tournaments. and the blind man stevie wonder must be on drugs. in the 60s and 70s we were bowling on 3lbs 3-4 ounces not 3lbs 12 ounces. today the standard is 3lbs 6ounces -7 ounces. know your facts.
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Post by Jerry Donnely on May 15, 2003 22:39:52 GMT -5
lou you lie. you said how the horn backed you for 1500 against kidder. the last post said you always bet your cash. maple always had walls. nobody averages 230 on a real condition. next time i see the horn, he'll tell me how good you were. do not bs that the game became easy that's why you quit. there must be other reasons. alot of money in brackets especially at the megabuck tournaments. and the blind man stevie wonder must be on drugs. in the 60s and 70s we were bowling on 3lbs 3-4 ounces not 3lbs 12 ounces. today the standard is 3lbs 6ounces -7 ounces. know your facts. Lou stands right up front using his own name, sounds to me like you’re the BS phony hiding like a little punk behind a message board. You probably never had the balls in your life to confront someone face to face let alone bowl them head to head. If you were 100th the man and or bowler that Lou was, and is, you wouldn't be knocking a great bowler like he was. Just keep hiding and sneak attack the way have been doing, that's all your fit to do in life. It must be terrible for you not to have the good memories that Lou has to be proud of. Your claim to fame can be telling everyone how you knocked him on a bowling message board while not having the balls to use your own name.Do everyone here a favor and get lost. |
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Post by WOW on May 15, 2003 22:49:08 GMT -5
Lou was more than just a great bowler, he was magnetic.
He has what most people don’t have, star appeal, when Lou bowled a match he was on stage, everyone in the house that knew anything about bowling wanted to watch him do his thing.
He had what great bowlers like Marshall Holman, Pete Weber, Mark Roth, just to mention a few had, showmanship.
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Post by Louis on May 16, 2003 9:05:00 GMT -5
Dear senior citizen i am sorry you feel i was not a good bowler. ask horn anything you like since all is true . Richie did all the betting with OUR money for about 6 months till I could not get a match at La Guardia or Bridge lanes anymore. in the late 70's there was a lull in the action there were only a few houses with good action. Since I never hustled and always bowled the top bowlers i did not have the luxury of bowling stiff s at these bowling centers. I bowled with great bowlers in my day Val tom Cammeleri Bob simonelli senior Billy P
Joe s richie hornreich snake joe c all these bowlers were great bowlers in there own right and all bowled out of Maple. enjoy and keep stroking
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Post by Louis on May 16, 2003 9:14:31 GMT -5
Dear WoW thanks for the compliment but that company is a little more than i could handle even though all 3 were very good friens of mine for years. heres a funny story about the Hated marshall holman.( who was a great guy) we were in dunkin donuts 4 of us after flying in to cleveland and marshall orders coffee and a donut as did we all and payed with a 20 dollar bill, the lady takes my 20 and didnt have change so marshall pays for mine so goofing the other 2 guys hand 20 dollar bills to the waitress and marshall pays for all 4 of us laughing, at this time a young couple walks in and orders as thry hand the lady a 20 marshall says you might as well take it from here the couple say thank you and recognise him and ask his autogragh and we all have a good laugh.Marshall was a real fun person and a tough competitor I feel honored to be mentioned inthe same light as these three great bowlers thanks Louis
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Post by Senior Citizen on May 16, 2003 12:07:46 GMT -5
jerry d is one asshole. Mark Roth greatest bowler ever from the east and top 3 of all time never had any class. That's why he does not even have a ball named after him. get your facts straight. and all those mentioned snake, etc were never great. just really good. why are you putting lc so high up. he was a very good bowler. great bowlers go on tour and beat the best. only a handful are great in any sport. lou superstar my ass. come back lou if you think you can still compete. it seems like you have the hitch continuously responding here.
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Post by Jerry on May 16, 2003 12:45:47 GMT -5
jerry d is one asshole. Mark Roth greatest bowler ever from the east and top 3 of all time never had any class. That's why he does not even have a ball named after him. get your facts straight. and all those mentioned snake, etc were never great. just really good. why are you putting lc so high up. he was a very good bowler. great bowlers go on tour and beat the best. only a handful are great in any sport. lou superstar my ass. come back lou if you think you can still compete. it seems like you have the hitch continuously responding here. If you read my post I never said Lou was as good as these guys, I said he drew crowds the way only a few selected bowlers did, it's his presense on the lanes, that's what I was talking about in the comparision. I know Mark was no bargain as a person but he definetly drew crowds as a bowler. |
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Post by Louis on May 16, 2003 14:23:35 GMT -5
OK senior maybe I do want to come back but unfortunatly i physically cannot becouse of serious back problems. mark was the best, bowled him 2 times in the finals on tour won 1 lost one the time I beat him I got fined for being well lets say ME!!!! petraglia i bowled once in finals i won. Johnny Petraglia was and always will be my Idol in the game he was a great bowler and always helped me as a kid trying to learn the game. As did his father Bill who was also a good bowler and very good coach. I am proad to say I got to bowl for Bill Petraglia as a Jr. bowler for Maple lanes in the early 70's against Madison sq. garden. As jr's we always looked forward to those matches and Bill was there with us coaching us all the way. I remember watching abc sports every week one year and Johnny made just about every show. We would watch at Maple, those were exciting days.I was at the match when john and mark bowled kitter and burgland, john and cliff were awful and the doubles ended fast but then mark bowled jeff heads up and i believe he won. I was having more fun and betting on bob spallone on the corner pair bowling woowoo woo the BEEPER. the last game bob needed aspare to win and walked to the pins and knocked over the 10 pin from about 3 feet it was the funniest thing i had ever seen. hey senior are you BOB or Billy?  |
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Post by Senior Citizen on May 16, 2003 19:14:18 GMT -5
The match you referred\ to happened at rainbow. Jeff and burglund clocked roth and rags in mark's own house. Rags was never that good in action because he needed oil. And roth never bowled kidder that night as I was told. did spallone really bowl the beeper. hard to believe beeper got on the same pair with him. so so so much better. spallone terrific action bowler. would rather go to ac.
so now I know the story. sorry about your back.
Schlegel and rags had bowled kidder and johnny bell in white plains bowl about a year before the roth match. kidder and bell destoyed them. they were one of the best doubles team I ever saw back in the day or even today. no matter where they bowled doubles, they were usually good for about 480. Johnny bell was a real good bowler, at that time better than kidder in my book. the only deuce bowler I ever knew that looked at the pins. Bell won alot, especially in singles but he never bet. He'd bet $5 or $10 on himself, but at the track I saw him generally bet $100 on a horse.
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Post by Senior Citizen on May 16, 2003 19:17:13 GMT -5
What stops did you make the top 24 to bowl against Roth and Rags?
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Post by Louis on May 17, 2003 0:40:37 GMT -5
I made the finals at the pba regional champions invitational and bowled against roth and lost but beat him at reg. in country lanes stiking out in tenth ( i got fined for sliding back to approach and motioning mark with my hands in my pocket. Mark won i finished 4th.
johnny i actually bowled 3 times once at country regional the year before i bowled mark it was the semi final game and i beat him and it unfortunatly cost him the tournament steve tripp won it . second time it was in gus lampo's house in endicott lanes in a differant
eastern champions classic and Johnny was amazing in one stretch he shot 300-279-300-256-296. I believe he beat me that time he made the show I finished 9th
the third time was at Maple for charity we bowled a 3 game match and people donated so much per pin johnny shot 750 or so and I shot 790.
That was probobly the most fun becouse i gor to bowl Rags at Maple in front of every one there my father was still alive then and he got to see me bowl that match.
than in the pro am i bowled 299 it was great becouse after the 11th strike the lane broke and took about 15 minutes to fix and about 800 people got to watch as i ran out (10) lanes as I left a ringing 10 pin.
By the way the match at Rainbow , Mark did bowl a couple of singles matches. and spallone did bowl beeper but lost the match Bobby was not the same for a while after that. Great bowler also.
Ok Ok so I miss bowling. please keep asking Q's I love
reminising about the old days.
The both Regionals at country lanes the Horn' wife read tarot cards and told me I would bowl well and make the finals. Both years the shot was easy. My favorite conditions were deep inside shots that hooked(using roto star sr's) or 2nd arrow out or THE LEDGE. I bowled well on walls but did not prefer them.
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Post by Zoo Master on May 17, 2003 14:30:13 GMT -5
Lou
Butch the owner of this site would like to speak to you.
You could email him your phone # or your email address, send it to butch@acbutch.com or PM me back with it.
The last time he was at Maple a few years back he was speaking to the Horn.
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Post by Louis on May 19, 2003 19:13:43 GMT -5
OK OK I have had enough I will find my Linds and drill a ball and try i said try to bowl again. after all the people
who responded to this might want to watch me again or for the first time, so after just about 10 years i will bowl again!!!!! How good I dont Know but i will Guarentee mid to high 2 teens if not better. I am getting older now and 230 might not be in the cards anymore. but even just for the fun of it. I will let you Know when the first time will be and where. Last time i bowled was about
6 years ago I bowled 2 games and 9 frames after just throwing about 10 practice balls I bowled in a sweeper at a bowling alley in washington n.j. bowled 238 , 246 and had the first 8 in a row as i threw the ninth strike DEAD FLUSH I had a little twinge in my back and i stood on the lanes the guy i went to bowl with says "you dont have to pose" i said i am not posing please help me off the lanes. could barely walk for 3 weeks after that.imagine having to quit with the 1st 9. Oh well!
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Post by Louis on May 19, 2003 19:20:22 GMT -5
My favorite bowling memory! we were bowling pot games at maple on 21 thru 24 there were about 8 of us bowling. the year approx 1978. Joe M throws the 1st
11 in a row across 4 lanes there were about 25 onlookers usually watching the pot games. Joe asks my father who was keeping score jokingly if anyone was still in it to win my father says no and joe takes his shoes off puts his ball away and takes the money! never threw the 12 frame.
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